Sunday, February 10, 2013

Lupe's Notes Feb. 10, 2013


Good afternoon sisters Are we ready for Spring?

THOUGHT: “You are those whom the Lord has selected to glorify Him in His presence, and may the Lord bless you and fill you with His Spirit, and may your eyes be clear to discern the things that pertain to your salvation.”

Lorenzo Snow

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BIRTHDAYS: Feb 10th – Pat. H; Feb 14th - Nicole L.; Happy Birthday to you sisters.

Tiffany W – Lesson 3 from Lorenzo Snow manual “Lifelong Conversion: Continuing to Advance in the Principles of Truth.

I have passed out some quotes that are meaningful and give great insight to the lesson.

Our religion should be incorporated within ourselves, a part of our being that cannot be laid off.”

We will skip over From the Life of Lorenzo Snow until later on in the lesson.

Gaining a testimony is a good starting point for Latter-day Saints.

The foundation upon which we have placed our faith is grand and glorious. I know this for myself. I have been in this Church but a short time when I succeeded in securing the most perfect knowledge that there was a God, that there was a Son, Jesus Christ, and that Joseph Smith was acknowledged of God as His prophet. It was a knowledge that no man could communicate. It came through a revelation from the Almighty. That is a very good starting point for a Latter-day Saint, and it is something that every person, who has any ambition at all to advance in this path, will need at some time or other. He will come into circumstances of such a nature that he will need strength, and that strength will come from a knowledge of the fact that the path in which he is traveling will lead him to the possession of his highest and best desires.”

As I read this and think about where he says that gaining a testimony is a very good starting point for a Latter-day Saint – why is a testimony only a starting point—not a final destination?

Karen M: We are continually growing, but if our testimony is not fed, it will go another direction. My mother was not active when I was growing up until my dad joined the Church, but I relied on her testimony as she taught me. When I told her that, she was surprised and said. I came so close to losing it.

Marlene L: When we were in the Philippines, we visited the less active who had not been to church for years. In their homes we could find Book of Mormons on the shelf and they would express a small testimony of Jesus Christ and the gospel, but they were acting upon it. They didn't teach their children. Need to act upon what they had.

Amy W: It's a spiritual gift from God given in accordance to obedience, but like all spiritual gits, it can be taken away. I like to use the analogy of love with my children. When you marry you feel that you really love your spouse, but if you never did anything for them, it is possible to stop loving them. It takes work. So it is with a testimony, in order to retain it and have it grow, you must work at it. The greatest thing is to have God as your partner. He is the perfect partner to have as part of your testimony.

I love that. It leads right into the next point.



If we desire to increase in our faith and spiritual knowledge, we must exert ourselves.

Quote 1 – Holly B: “A man can get information by the operations of the Holy Spirit, and he approaches to God and increases in his faith in proportion as he is diligent.”

Pat J: By doing what we need to do.

How can our actions and habits change?

Amy S: By being consistent. By doing a little bit better and not try to get it all done at once.

President Snow: “We should all strive to get a little nearer to the Lord. It is necessary for us to advance a little and obtain a full knowledge of those things which we should more fully understand. It is the privilege of every Latter-day Saint.”

Try a little harder every day.

Karen M: When we nourish our bodies, we don't eat a huge meal on Sunday and then eat nothing for the rest of the week. We can't catch up on our reading, but we do a little bit every day.

Sally S: I try to teach that to my grandchildren. You have to constantly keep nourishing. Be diligent. It's not a one time thing.

Yes, it can be a challenge – reading the scriptures, prayers, developing a relationship with Heavenly Father. We need to balance that with our other responsibilities. Mosiah 4:27 And see that all these things are done in wisdom and order; for it is not requisite that a man should run faster than he has strength. And again, it is expedient that he should be diligent, that thereby he might win the prize; therefore, all things must be done in order.”

And Alma 38:10 “And now, as ye have begun to teach the word even so I would that ye should continue to teach; and I would that ye would be diligent and temperate in all things.

There is a sense of balance implied here. I looked up the definition of esteem and it said “to value highly; to take delight in doing, to consider.” It is more than just obedience. It takes effort to be concerned with spiritual things.

Lynette: I have an inactive grandson and I have warned him that the more he tries to do better, the harder Satan will work on you. Satan is working on him. He lightened up when he realize that Satan will interfere with his desire to change. He will challenge us.

There are challenges all around us. We have to double our efforts.

Alisa: This is how mortality is. Go from order to disorder. Before I was married I was told that all will try to pull you apart. Satan is part of that, but it is mortality. We have to work because we have weeds; everyday we have distraction. I have that with my children and as I deal with them, I ask, why can't I feel the spirit. OK. So I open my scriptures. It challenges me to get stronger.

On page 65, we have the principle of exerting ourselves to being more diligent.

Quote 2 – Jennifer K. “So in regard to us, respecting the things which we are undertaking. If we expect to improve, to advance in the work immediately before us, and finally to obtain possession of those gifts and glories, coming up to that condition of exaltation we anticipate, we must take thought and reflect, we must exert ourselves, and that too to the utmost of our ability>”

Any thoughts? What stands out to me is if I expect to improve, I need to take the thought and exert myself. I love the personal experience that the Lord had with Oliver Cowdery. Oliver wanted to translate and the Lord promised him the gift to translate, but like many of us today, he had misconceptions in regard to the exercise of the gift. He thought all that was necessary for him to do, inasmuch as this gift had been promised him of God, was to allow his mind to wait in idleness without effort, until it should operate spontaneously. But when those records were placed before him there was no knowledge communicated, they still remained sealed, as it were, for no power to translate came upon him.

Although the gift to translate had been conferred, he could not prosecute the work, simply because he failed to exert himself before God with the view of developing the gift within; and he became greatly disappointed, and the Lord, in his goodness and mercy, informed him of his mistake, using the following language--

Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you when you took no thought, save it was to ask me; but, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you,”

We probably have had similar experiences. The answers do not come, things didn't turn out the way I expected. Heavenly Father knows us and he blesses us with gifts, but sometimes things do not work out as we think it should. We need to have faith in the overall plans. Even with our concerns, disappointments, we will move forward. The Lord will bless us for trying.

Gloria L: My favorite scripture is “Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.” That scripture came as I dealt with my family. It is an effective part of maturing. Society is pretty simple and we forget how easy things are. It brings ourselves back to reality.

Jennifer C: We all yearn to have a strong testimony. We constantly yearn for the spirit. It's not a hard concept. We learn it, then it's the stage of apply it and then teach. You will continue to grow and develop. There are a lot of distraction, my children can be a distraction. But we are Goddess in the making. Now we are mothers. There is a channel of light, of truth and n the next stage of our lives, we will not be distracted. We wonder why we don not feel this spirituality with our children. But now they need me to teach them. Now I need to teach them.

How can we teach children to be diligent and exert themselves?

Karen M: I used to observe my friends and family to see how they taught their children. We never stop teaching. We need to point out everything that has to do with eternal life. Teach them that everyday is a bout eternity to help them fortify their testimony.

Holly B: From their parents. What parents put their time on. Do they take time for Family Home Evening? May not always be happy about doing it, or about reading the scriptures, but it's important for us as parents that we show them.

I had the greatest dad and he left his children a great legacy. He was really diligent in the gospel. He never took a vacation from his scripture and prayers. When he was sick in his hospital bed, what he wanted us to do was read the scriptures to him. Example does have an effect.

Gayla: I want for my children to say their morning and evening prayers, but I don't want to make a have to do thing and have them mark when they did it. Maybe say to them, ' would you like me to stay here while you say your prayers? My older children will say, no, I can do it. But I hope that it will remind them to say them even when I'm not there.

Holly B: It's about personal revelation for your child. How do I do that? The spirit teaches.

This leads us to the cucumber in a barrel vs., pickle talk by Elder Bednar. Lorenzo Snow: I will [present a] figure in regard to bringing about and getting this spirit in us, and digging deep that we in the time of storm, many not be driven off. Place a cucumber in a barrel of vinegar and there is but little effect produced upon it the first hour, nor in the first 12 hours. Examine it and and you will find that the effect produced is merely upon the rind, for it requires a longer time to pickle it. A person's being baptized into this church has an effect upon him, but not the effect to pickle him immediately. It does not establish the law of right and of duty in him during the first 12 or 24 hours; he must remain in the church, like the cucumber in the vinegar, until he becomes saturated with the right spirit, until he becomes pickled in 'Mormonism,' in the law of God; we have got to have those things incorporated in our systems.

Elder Bednar in General Conference of April 2007 talked about the pickling process and then he summarized it by saying:

As an adult I have reflected upon the things I observed in our kitchen during canning season. This morning I want to discuss some of the spiritual lessons we can learn from the process by which a cucumber becomes a pickle. I invite the Holy Ghost to be with us as we consider the significance of those lessons for me and for you as we come unto Christ and are spiritually reborn.

To summarize, a cucumber becomes a pickle as it is prepared and cleaned, immersed in and saturated with salt brine, and sealed in a sterilized container. This procedure requires time and cannot be hurried, and none of the essential steps can be ignored or avoided.
Read Elder Bednar's talk. A great thought of how do I approach spiritual things.

Quote 3: Alison R: “We ought to dig deep into the things of God, lay our foundation upon the rock, until we come to that water which shall be in us an everlasting fountain of eternal life.”

Quote 4: Rebecca W: “There are men among us upon whom the Spirit of the Almighty once rested mightily, whose intentions were once as good and pure as those of angels, and who made covenants with God that they would serve Him and keep His commandments under every and all circumstances....But how is it now with some of those Elders? They do not feel so to-day. Their affections are set upon the things of this world which the Lord has enabled them to acquired, that they wait now until they are called, and in many instances when called, they obey more out of a desire to retain their standing and position, than a real heart-felt love of the labor to which they may have been called.

President Snow had a marvelous experience wanting to have a special manifestation of the Holy Ghost.

“This manifestation did not immediately follow my baptism, as I expected, “ he recalled. “But, although the time was deferred, when I did receive it, its realization was more perfect, tangible and miraculous than even my strongest hopes had led me to anticipate. One day while engaged in my studies, some two or three weeks after I was baptized, I began to reflect upon the fact that I had not obtained a knowledge of the truth of the work—that I had not realized the fulfillment of the promise: 'He that doeth my will shall know of the doctrine,' and I began to feel very uneasy.

“I laid aside my books, left the house and wandered around through the fields under the oppressive influence of a gloomy, disconsolate spirit, while an indescribable cloud of darkness seemed to envelop me. I had been accustomed, at the close of the day, to retire for secret prayer to a grove, a short distance from my lodgings, but at this time I felt no inclination to do so.
The spirit of prayer had departed, and the heavens seemed like brass over my head. At length, realizing that the usual time had come for secret prayer, I concluded I would not forego my evening service, and as a matter of formality, knelt as I was in the habit of doing and in my accustomed retired place, but not feeling as I was wont to feel.

“I had no sooner opened my lips in an effort to pray, than I heard a sound, just above my head, like the rustling of silken robes, and immediately the Spirit of God descended upon me, completely enveloping my whole person, filling me from the crown of my head to the soles of my feet, and O, the joy and happiness I felt! No language can describe the instantaneous transition from a dense cloud of mental and spiritual darkness into a refulgence of light and knowledge, as it was at that time imparted to my understanding. I then received a perfect knowledge that God lives, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and of the restoration of the Holy Priesthood, and the fulness of the gospel.

Why do we feel that we do not want to pray. That we have the feeling that our prayers don't reach to heaven. Then President Snow had that experience.
Amy S: Joseph Smith's experience of the adversary is real. He wants to prevent than need to push through.. We know rationally that he is there, but don't feel close. The adversary is trying to hold us back.
President Snow continued to be diligent in doing what he needed to do. He wanted a witness. Heavenly Father knows us perfectly. He was able to receive that for himself.
I hope that it all came together. It offered us the opportunity to reflect and ponder about what I can do more consistently.
We are working hard. The youth are so prepared. Sometimes we don't recognize the progress that we make. What we take away from the lesson is to continue to nourish our testimony and then help others
Next week, our lesson will be #4 Strengthened by the Power of the Holy Ghost.

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